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  "Still don't believe in a "NewWorldOr...

  by sf in

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  "charles t. russell military illuminati" is what yielded this search result (for those i know who are requesting these results):.

  < http://www.svpvril.com/nwo.html.

  i guess kissinger was drunk too when he said what he said.

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  Mommie Dark

  . http://www.svpvril.com/index.htm#It's%20a

  followed the links back to this home page.

  Another crackpot, another crackpot theory.

  Adding it to the collection...
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  JW Organization On Autopilot

  by AlanF in

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  these days it's pretty clear that the jw organization is running on autopilot.

  charles taze.

  russell, joe booze rutherford, nathan knorr and freddie franz all had a certain amount of vision.

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  Mommie Dark

  A moron spewed:
  "AlanF said to Mishnah:
  "...go fuck yourself."

  But only a little earlier AlanF had said THIS of himself:
  Unlike JWs, I retain a sense of ethics."
  (he repeated the quote for emphasis, because he's a moron and probably didn't understand the instruction the first time...)

  What the cretinous Yadirf doesn't understand is, it's ALWAYS ethical to tell a blowhard cretinous moron to go fuck himself.

  So, Yadirf, why not join yer pal Mishnah in a round of self-fucking, and quit pestering people who have enough brain cells to string a coherent message?

  MD
  who also retains a sense of ethics, which has NOTHING to do with vulgar language or a lack thereof, and EVERYTHING to do with honesty
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  NEW POLL - Number of Known Victims

  by Amazing in

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  2. friends

  please, i am asking that only those who responded to my first poll about the numebr of molesters they know, to respond to this poll.

  this way i can make sense between the two polls.. please also, as you did before, avoid comments until i post the results.

  here are tow qeustions and how i answer them to kick this poll off to a start:.

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  Mommie Dark

  #1: two known victims
  #2:4 known victims
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  Average Numbers of Victims per Molester (rev)

  by Amazing in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i added a post below to janh, number 15, to address some realistic numbers.

  some have had difficulty in accepting the number of victims per pedophile i have used, i.e.

  i based this on what an attorney who prosecutes such cases against molesters told me.

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  Mommie Dark

  "For every victim stepping forward there are a good number, in fact as the attorney told me, a major number of about 90% who will not step forward. Why? Because they are ashamed and do not want to be identified. They do not want to re-live the emotional pain and suffering by facing the accused in court. They do not hear about the trial until it is too late to make a claim. Other victims just want to move on and forget what happened. Some victims, while wanting to participate, are satisfied that the molester got caught, and feel no need to join in further action."

  One big reason some folks never step forward is the pervasive blame-the-victim mentality, especially among JWs. When I finally broke the code of silence and told my family about our father, my oldest sister came forward and admitted that she had been his victim right up until she married (and that's when he started in on me...). As we compared notes, we found we had both internalized the blame for his behavior... and it never occurred to either of us to tell an elder. we KNEW we would be blamed, shamed, have to recount every detail. When an elderly 'anointed' elder molested her, she kept quiet, same reason.

  Being ignorant, it never occurred to either of us that our silence might permit them to victimize others. We thought WE were somehow attracting the attention, and redoubled efforts to be as unobtrusive and untouchable as possible. The notion that these pervs deserved punishment never entered our minds. The notion that Dad might prey on others never entered my mind. It horrified me when I found out that not only did he have a history of molesting my sister, but other relatives knew about it and kept quiet too, out of some twisted family pride, and, knowing he had transferred his attentions to me, continued to keep the silence until I outed him twenty years later. And then after I did speak out, we found that dear old Dad had molested at least two of his granddaughters, too.

  It takes more courage than I will ever have to go public and take a perv to court. I salute those who have displayed that courage. I especially salute those who have suffered at the hands of self-righteous judgmental twits who have no clue at all of what the victims went through.
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  Losing Loved ones to Death While in the Org..

  by Roamingfeline in

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  2. friends

  did anyone lose beloved family members or friends to death while in the org?

  if so, how did you feel about it once you came out of the cult and figured out that everything you'd been taught about the new system coming soon, and loved ones being resurrected was a big fat lie you'd been spoonfed?

  how did you feel and react to that?.

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  Mommie Dark

  The resurrection lie is the biggest carrot the Society has to offer. I can remember it being used on me, and using it on others. In a study with our children, one of my sisters started a round of 'who do you hope to see in the New Order?' and all the kids dutifully parroted back their wish to see various deceased loved ones they knew about or vaguely recalled.

  In a family as huge as ours, death is a chronic visitor. All my grandparents, mother, all my Dad's siblings, two of Mom's, all gone, from cancer, stroke, heart disease, or just plain old age. An uncle, cousin, sister-in-law and husband lost in their youthful primes, to accidents. A precious niece and nephew, dead of SIDS. This is not a complete list, just an outline.

  It was a shock to find out that the carrot is plastic and that the Society nails folks' feet down so you can only chase the carrot in the one tiny circle that they have scribed into the dirt.

  Losing that fond dream of seeing Mom and others again wasn't the worst part of deculting. I've always known that dead is dead. If there is no god to resurrect them (and I'm sure enough of that for my own satisfaction) then they are past all pain and suffering, and have fulfilled their purpose in the general scheme of things. No matter how sad or sorry I am at their loss, for them, it's not tragedy. Sorrow and regret are provinces of the living, not the dead. They are, bluntly, fertilizer now, and that's a fine thing in its proper context, and not a fearful fate. Our inability to reconcile ourselves to it is our problem. Their problems are finished for good...

  The worst part was the realization that I had traded my personal ethical integrity in exchange for the promise of that plastic carrot, and wasted all those years, and, worst of all, abused and terrified my kids with cult dogma, in order to buy a timeshare in pursuit of it.
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  went to church

  by Mommie Dark in

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  and the right reverend master of music brian wilson preached this:.

  love and mercy.

  i was sittin' in a crummy movie with my hands on my chin.

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  Mommie Dark

  and the Right Reverend Master of Music Brian Wilson preached this:

  Love and Mercy

  I was sittin' in a crummy movie with my hands on my chin
  All the violence that occurs seems like we never win

  Love and mercy that's what you need tonight
  So love and mercy to you and your friends tonight

  I was lyin' in my room and the news came on T.V.
  A lotta people out there hurtin' and it really scares me

  Love and mercy that's what you need tonight
  So love and mercy to you and your friends tonight

  I was standin' in a bar and watchin' all the people there
  Oh the lonliness in this world well it's just not fair

  Oooooo-ooooooo-ooooooo
  Oooooo-yeah
  Ahhhhh-ahh-ahh-ahh-ahhhhhh

  Love and mercy to you
  To you

  Love and mercy that's what you need tonight
  So love and mercy to you and your friends tonight

  Love and mercy that's what you need tonight
  Love and mercy tonight

  Truth is where you find it...

  Amen Brother Wilson!

  "One crowded hour of glorious life is worth an age without a name."
  Thomas Mordaunt
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  C.O. Location ?

  by HoChiMin in

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  2. friends

  being from the new england area, where this c.o.

  liked to kick ass, a few of my elder friends wanted to know whether anyone has heard of whatever happened to a circuit overseer by the name of terry angelacos.

  had a reputation of really trying to get elders removed and then he'd gloat about it at the congregation meetings.

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  Mommie Dark

  Terry Angelacos was our CO in 1979/80 in NE Ohio. I remember him vivdly, huge man who was extremely picky about what he ate, claimed he had 'hypoglycemia' and needed a high protein diet. The sisters had a cow trying to cook for him as I recall.

  He's the nit who told a car group that if we were ever counseled for something we hadn't done, we should gratefully accept the counsel anyway, no matter how harsh or underserved. And told a Bethel story of being reamed out for something he hadn't done and taking the blame and the tongue-lashing humbly. (and how HUMBLE of him to share that with us!)

  His wife worked with me in one neighborhood; she couldn't stand my babies, though, and asked me straight up to take them home. Suggested I find another single mother to trade babysitting with so we wouldn't be dragging our noisy distracting strollerbabies around in the precious field service! And yes I took that insulting advice quietly, just like the CO said I should. Good dubmissive idiot that I was...
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  Why Are You Here?

  by larc in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the question, "why are you here?

  " is simple enough, and your answer may be straightforward.

  however, when i asked that of myself, i find that my answer is pretty complicated.

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  Mommie Dark

  Mama used to say, 'half of all people are put on earth as a test for the other half.'

  I'm the extra credit portion, and grammar and spelling count...:D

  "One crowded hour of glorious life is worth an age without a name."
  Thomas Mordaunt
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  Organized religion, no religion, agnostic

  by cnn77 in

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  i am new here trying to figure my way around...... i would appreciate it if you could say which of these fits you..... 1. still a jw.

  2. if you dont agree with the jw doctrines any longer do you belong to another religious organization now?

  3. are still religious and have no religious affiliation.

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  Mommie Dark

  Happy Number Five!

  Humanist, iconoclast, and amanuensis to the zeitgeist in all my masturbatory fantasies

  in realtime, I'm JUST ANOTHER ONIONHEAD
  as are we all...

  "One crowded hour of glorious life is worth an age without a name."
  Thomas Mordaunt
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  You Know's Seared Conscience

  by Seeker in

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  [moving this to its own thread so as to avoid hijacking the original thread to a new topic.].

  when i pointed out how you know was associating with apostates by being here, as the society has pointed out, he responded:.

  my conscience doesn't bother me.

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  Mommie Dark

  "Christ, for example, was commanded to go only to the lost sheep of Israel, yet on occasion he ventured to Sidon and Samaria and helped non-Jews. So, you really can't judge how I may serve Jehovah"

  So NOW he's equal to Jesus Christ himself!

  Oh, Bobby, Hubris-man! ROFLOL at your arrogance and false pride!